Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sekthaus Carl Graeger

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Star Mississippi 20:03, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Sekthaus Carl Graeger

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Poorly-sourced stub on a non-notable winery. Search finds nothing beyond the usual directory listings and the like. Fails WP:GNG / WP:COMPANY. DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:08, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Companies, Wine and Germany --DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:23, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
• keep Citing: "At the break of the 20th century it was one of the finest German sparkling wine brands , earning multiple wine exhibition awards". notability remark coming from the neutral source: The Hessian Economic Archive. There was no internets at this time, you know, so you know, the google search is useless. Loew Galitz (talk) 19:55, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

  Being one of the finest wine brands is not a notability criterion. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 05:04, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

  Huh? being among the best in kind is not a notability? You must be kidding. Anyway, receiving multiple awards is. Loew Galitz (talk) 05:07, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

  Please point to the relevant guideline where either of those is given as a notability criterion. GNG requires significant coverage in multiple independent and reliable secondary sources. None of the ones cited meets this. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 05:39, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

  That's too bad or wikipedia if awards and world fame are not among the criteria for notability. I am not well versed in wikilawyering. But you are wrong about sources: two of them are independent, reasonably in-depth and reliable. Loew Galitz (talk) 18:49, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

• Comment I am not that attached to this particular article; I simply like to write articles on subjects I find interesting and are neglected in wikipedia. I knew that sooner or later I will fall victim of deletionists. So be it. I will no longer be flogging a dead horse here. Bye. Loew Galitz (talk) 18:49, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
• Delete Zero hits in almost everything except for Gbooks, one thing in German and one in Who Owns Whom. I would suspect there would be German-language sources in a library somewhere, but I have no idea how to find them. Oaktree b (talk) 00:50, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

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